Flamed at Afternic. Circa 2000 (Clinton was President)

Morning Folks!!


Let me define foolish. The following was a post I made on October 22nd of 2000 and then had the audacity to post it on Afternic. (the old Afternic with a reputation for shill builders and worse) Another Sunday more than a decade ago and I am still having the same arguments today........They said THEN what they do now. Too funny. Look back to see the future. This is to all the non believers then, now and in the future. I got flamed big time and this was the last post I ever made there.


Is the crap I heard in 2000 the same crap we hear now? You bet it is! But to PROVE what type mentality I was dealing with.....Franky had yet to purchase his first domain but these pinheads were all saying the same things the pinheads of today say. I hope it opens just one set of eyes out there.


Has the game changed? You bet it has. But the basics don't change. The attitude determines everything. Think it is over and it is over. What would you label the folks that said that in 2000???? You can use the same label for the same thinking in 2011. More opportunity, It just comes in different forms.


October 22, 2000


Morning Folks!


Many, maybe most believe you could not do what I did again. In some respects they are right. In others, they are completely wrong.
I started in 1995 with $1800. So I decided to do an experiment recently.
I bought geteven.com for $760
I bought peeshots.com for $500
I bought ??? (still looking for 1 more domain)
The #1 thing is BE PICKY!! Choose well. THIS is THE most important part of your job.
The above 2 domains make $80/day
Both of these domains have been bought RECENTLY.
With $75 a day PROFIT I have 2 basic choices. I can buy 5-10 domains a DAY for free. Or I could realize that they will earn $2250/month. That $2250 a month now gives me BUYING POWER.
The next thing will determine what kind of businessman I am or you are. It's the ART of the deal. The FORMULA you must CREATE in which 2 parties walk away happy and getting what they want.
I can buy a domain for $2250 CASH.....OR.......you can make a deal and buy a $25,000 domain and pay the guy $2,000 a month for a year. Or you can buy a $2,000 domain EVERY month. or a THOUSAND different scenarios.
Point is:
#1 You can STILL do this.
#2 The FIRST domains are more important than ANY other domains you EVER buy. It is the FUEL you need to get to the next level.
So to those folks that BELIEVE it is all over.......BULLSHIT!!! You just have a BAD attitude and have given up.
I just proved you wrong. But if you buy WORTHLESS domains, you will NEVER make a cent.
Here's the road map folks. I can't make it simpler than that.
I REFUSE to even answer a question about this cuz it is in such SIMPLE language that I just don't have the temperament to deal with naysayers.
Got it you Afternic lurkers without the balls to even post??
NOW you understand why I don't deal well with MORONS. If they are not capable of following a SIMPLE example, they are not capable of going to the next level and the next and the next. Morons populate this planet in numbers too high to measure. :-)
Have a GREAT day!!
Rick Schwartz
Sun Oct 22 08:01:16 2000 - 172.130.220.171 - message #4991


My Thoughts the next day:


Will human nature will NEVER change!!??
Serge, you are one of the few that remember my reception at Ynot, then the real estate board and others. Imagine going to a domain forum and receiving the SAME treatment!
http://www.afternic.com/index.cfm?a=th&fid=15&tid=20992&mid=21097#21097
Well yesterday I made a post at Afternic with a reprint from my post #4991 that was my morning post yesterday. I thought it was valuable enough to post over there. WRONG!
All I got was flamed by the folks that THINK they understand domains. I readily admit I don't know everything and I learn EVERY day and from nearly EVERY person.
Check out the thread and see the reaction after I give them a FORMULA that works and is the EXACT formula I follow.
Now I understood being flamed at Jonathan's World at the end of 1996 and I understand the early days of Ynot, I even understand Cresline to some degree. But here are domain speculators that for the most part are walking east trying to find the sunset and they too throw stones.
Human nature spits out morons at an incredible rate. Can anyone turn off the 'Moron machine'?
Have a GREAT day!
Rick Schwartz
Mon Oct 23 08:08:52 2000 - 172.154.39.59 - message #5085

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23 thoughts on “Flamed at Afternic. Circa 2000 (Clinton was President)

  1. owen frager

    Few people see the relevancy of the past to today. If those flaming looked close enough at the old content they would see themselves in the very same picture today. You can yell”land mine” only so much and offer the route around it. But when those can only respond”this old has-been has been yelling land mine for 11 years, time for him to get out of the way and let new folks do it our way with .bz.” I say let them.

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  2. Jeff Schneider

    Hello Rick,
    Funny how truths never change but SPIN does! We think people in the domaining industry are starting to sense the phonies in our Industry and their alterior motives that have nothing to do with truly watching Domainers BACKS. Educating DOMAINERS as you are doing will help us all REAL DOMAINERS escape being washed out to sea and drowned. Thanks Again from all of us!
    Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)

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  3. Jp

    And how much a day do peeshots and geteven make now. You are right the game has changed. That right there is a great example of it.

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  4. Rick Schwartz

    Until the recent downturn, Geteven.com was still making $50-$60/day. Peeshots just $1-$2/day. Those $$$ earned for so many years were the dollars I used to buy more and more domains so you would have to factor in all those purchases and their income over the years into the equation to get a clear picture and not one so one dimensional.
    See I build virtual engines. It is based on many factors. Geteven.com is one of my most inquired about domain names. I look at it as land with mineral rights. Oil can be pumped. That is one mineral. If eventually exhausted, you can tap into something else. It still has value. It is not pigeon shit. It means something. You can’t ignore those other factors.
    It still pays annual registration fees every day of the week. Which means it still funds hundreds of new registrations each year. That’s what I mean by building an engine. The funds are self generating and self sustaining. And yes things change. That is why I never bought a domain name based on a ppc multiple. EVER!! That would be like buying a diamond based on size only and not even give weight to clarity or color or cut. Elements that could render that diamond worthless if you don’t know what to look for.

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  5. Favorite Domains

    It is surprising. GetEven.com making that much money.
    I looked at Google keyword tool, only about 1,300 searches per month for”get even”. It must be that these people just type in instead of searching in Google?

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  6. Lucas

    I also can’t understand the same part of the post as the previous comments:
    “I bought geteven.com for $760
    I bought peeshots.com for $500
    The above 2 domains make $80/day”
    I am no expert but based on their expected traffic volume I would be surprised if today in parking they made $20 PER MONTH together… How could they make $80 PER DAY in 2000 with much less internet users?!
    what am I missing or don’t understand???? :-S

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  7. SEO PPC

    You know what, I checked Google Adwords immediately after reading the article and the same question posed by @Favorite Domains @Lucas crossed my mind??

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  8. GRAHAM

    GetEven? good idea Rick!
    Rick is such an utter bullshitter how can you believe any of his stats?
    Rick:”Send me a link to test the signups to CamGirls.com and I’ll consider looking into expansion”.
    Rick:”Too low level for PORNO.COM. Not the direction I am heading”.
    OH SH1T MATE! NO FRICKIN WORRIES!
    JUST TELL ME ONE THING AND DO THE OTHER THEN WHEN I CALL YOU AN IDIOT GET YOUR FRICKIN MATES TO DEFAME ME AND PUBLISH ALL YOUR BULLSHIT ABOUT ME.
    YOU THINIK YOU CAN GO AROUND LIFE BREAKING YOUR WORD ON $10 BILLION DEALS RICK?
    YOU EVER HEARD OF CONTRACT LAW RICK?
    I DID 1 SEMESTER
    THE VERY FIRST SITUATION THEY TELL YOU IS THIS.
    YOU PHONE UP A COMPANY AND ORDER $10,000 IN FENCES.
    YOU PHONE BACK 20 MINUTES LATER AND CANCEL.
    THAT’S YOU YOU FUCKING STUPID LYING PRICK.
    THEY CAN DELIVER THE FENCES, AS THEY ALREADY WENT AHEAD AND GOT IT SORTED RIGHT??
    THEN YOU ARE LIABLE FOR THE $10,000!
    GOT IT!
    CONTRACT LAW YOU ASSHOLE
    SEE YOU IN COURT FOR DAMAGES

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  9. Josh

    October of 2000. I’d quit my day job in August 2000 to focus on domains. And its been over a decade, time surely flies. And what a ride it’s been, more than I ever dreamed it would be.

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  10. Jeff Schneider

    Hello Rick,
    We DOMAINERS are being FLAMED AGAIN !!
    We DOMAINERS need to unite and wave on imposters within our Industry. Ever heard of a MOLE ? They are burrowwing underneath us as We speak !
    Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)

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  11. Altaf

    Hi Rick,
    At AN I read one of your great article about how to select a domain based upon its length & character. It was great,but does it prevail in current time? It took me good time to understand your”typ-ins”.
    Have a great time! Regards,

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  12. t

    I think the question is where does the traffic :) come from for those 2 domains to make that kind of profit. If u were trying to be transparent the stats would have been nice, Unique users, ctr, average ppc, etc… Oh and Graham Sometimes in business people just change their minds for whatever reasons. That is why people insist on Contracts. I understand your upset the deal of the century didn’t go through but what can you do. I doubt he’s going to change his mind especially with you being soo negative with him. Be happy the only investment you lost was opportunity, Good thing its in ample supply if you know how to spot it. P.s. Don’t take him saying its too low level soo personally. Everybody is entitled to their opinions whether u agree or not. Disclaimer : I know nobody,.I just read the blogs :)

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  13. Graham

    Reneging is theft.
    Setting the record straight is honest.
    Abusing the victim is akin to gang bashing.

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  14. Graham

    Morning Folks!!
    Let me define foolish.
    ______________________
    You’d be the expert on that Rick!

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  15. karol

    Mr Schwartz I read few your posts and you play a good guy.
    The true is by creating sites like peeshots.com you just promote porno business.
    If I ask any valuable, intelligent person e.g psychologist whether website like that gives any value to society or if they have bad influence on … answer always will be the same.
    People like you always find hundreds excuses to explain what they do but fact always will be fact.
    You have knowledge of domain business etc. but I do not see you as a valuable human being so please do not replay to this post.
    ps enjoy your revenue form those sites

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  16. Graham

    LOL! I can’t talk I own CamGirls.com.
    OK let me explain on Rick’s behalf since he has been muted.
    Does running a porn site conflict with my deeply religious morals?
    Cam Sex is SAFE SEX! A typical woman you meet is ODDS ON going to have herpes, and it’s incurable and there is no protection.
    The guys TALK to the women! Sure it’s all low level ‘hey bb shake ’em for me!’ but it’s video conferencing for Adults, it’s interactive.
    Rather than be too shy to approach a beautiful woman, it’s like girlfriend practice! And lot’s of the girls have regular followers and have long term relationships online.
    The modelling industry is like a lottery ticket!
    but CamGirls is a real alternative for beautiful women. I cringe when I see a hot blonde serving fries all day for $12 an hour. Work from home in safety for $175 an hour.
    Why shouldn’t beautiful people be able to make money with their looks? If you are a despiser of nakedness then atleast don’t force your views on everybody else, it’s clothes that are unnatural not tits!

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